Comments on: Better (30 years) late than never http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2009/06/29/better-30-years-late-than-never/ You're only as old as you feel. damn... Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:44:50 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: otou-san http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2009/06/29/better-30-years-late-than-never/comment-page-1/#comment-10673 otou-san Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:59:41 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=1470#comment-10673 Not sure if these will come out in Blu-Ray. Technically, since they came out in theatres, I think there would be sufficient resolution to work with, but I'm not sure about that. Not sure if these will come out in Blu-Ray. Technically, since they came out in theatres, I think there would be sufficient resolution to work with, but I’m not sure about that.

]]> By: otou-san http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2009/06/29/better-30-years-late-than-never/comment-page-1/#comment-10672 otou-san Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:58:45 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=1470#comment-10672 I dunno, if you ask a lot of people the SEED Destiny mess is a travesty as a whole. But I can't really speak to that, since I haven't moved on since this post. I dunno, if you ask a lot of people the SEED Destiny mess is a travesty as a whole. But I can’t really speak to that, since I haven’t moved on since this post.

]]> By: otou-san http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2009/06/29/better-30-years-late-than-never/comment-page-1/#comment-10671 otou-san Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:52:07 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=1470#comment-10671 it's my understanding that the sound effects were redone (along with some animation) for the movies, while the TV series does match the <em>Macross 7 </em> kinda sounds (and it does — overall what I've seen of the series seems far less revolutionary than the movies, excepting the robots of course). It's the distinction between the movies and the TV, not the original and remaster, much like <em>Macross</em> and <em>Do You Remember Love?</em> But to lump Gundam and M7 together in the same "classic mecha" pool, I dunno. It seems that the nearly 20 years separating the two series should really make a difference, and you can't deny that <em>7</em>'s production values are barely anywhere past the original <em>SDF Macross</em>'s. It hardly looks like something that came out just a couple years before <em>Evangelion</em> or <em>Gundam Wing</em>. it’s my understanding that the sound effects were redone (along with some animation) for the movies, while the TV series does match the Macross 7 kinda sounds (and it does — overall what I’ve seen of the series seems far less revolutionary than the movies, excepting the robots of course). It’s the distinction between the movies and the TV, not the original and remaster, much like Macross and Do You Remember Love?

But to lump Gundam and M7 together in the same “classic mecha” pool, I dunno. It seems that the nearly 20 years separating the two series should really make a difference, and you can’t deny that 7’s production values are barely anywhere past the original SDF Macross’s. It hardly looks like something that came out just a couple years before Evangelion or Gundam Wing.

]]> By: Soukou http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2009/06/29/better-30-years-late-than-never/comment-page-1/#comment-10665 Soukou Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:33:34 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=1470#comment-10665 "...exact opposite would be Macross 7’s awful sound effects which were obviously created on a single synthesizer by a drunken panda..." Sounds like you had never watched classic mecha shows. Those were standart sound-effects used in pratically every robot anime in the 80's and 90's, including the Gundam franchise. Before being remastered, the movies had exactly the same sound-effects as Macross 7 and many others... “…exact opposite would be Macross 7’s awful sound effects which were obviously created on a single synthesizer by a drunken panda…”

Sounds like you had never watched classic mecha shows.
Those were standart sound-effects used in pratically every robot anime in the 80’s and 90’s, including the Gundam franchise.

Before being remastered, the movies had exactly the same sound-effects as Macross 7 and many others…

]]> By: sakura http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2009/06/29/better-30-years-late-than-never/comment-page-1/#comment-7334 sakura Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:32:11 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=1470#comment-7334 I love that you mentioned Cobra Commander, if you haven't seen them, do yourself a favour and youtube Attack of the Show's Cobra Commander sketches, they are awesome! I sometimes tell myself it probably would have been better had I watched Seed Destiny in its condensed movie version rather than the series. Think of it, I could have missed all that awful crying and whining. Maybe I wouldn't have wanted Shin to die as bad by the end of the whole thing had I done so. I love that you mentioned Cobra Commander, if you haven’t seen them, do yourself a favour and youtube Attack of the Show’s Cobra Commander sketches, they are awesome!

I sometimes tell myself it probably would have been better had I watched Seed Destiny in its condensed movie version rather than the series.

Think of it, I could have missed all that awful crying and whining. Maybe I wouldn’t have wanted Shin to die as bad by the end of the whole thing had I done so.

]]> By: Jesus159159159 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2009/06/29/better-30-years-late-than-never/comment-page-1/#comment-7162 Jesus159159159 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:19:55 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=1470#comment-7162 I'm glad there are blu-ray versions of some of the Gundam shows. Not sure if the first series is out in that format, but even if it isn't, it's bound to happen... What I'm trying to say is that I'd rather see a more crisp version. Since I've waited this long, I might as well wait for the blu-rays =3 Hmmm, after all the moe I've seen, some bitch-slapping would fit quiet nicely... I’m glad there are blu-ray versions of some of the Gundam shows. Not sure if the first series is out in that format, but even if it isn’t, it’s bound to happen… What I’m trying to say is that I’d rather see a more crisp version. Since I’ve waited this long, I might as well wait for the blu-rays =3

Hmmm, after all the moe I’ve seen, some bitch-slapping would fit quiet nicely…

]]> By: Owen S http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2009/06/29/better-30-years-late-than-never/comment-page-1/#comment-7036 Owen S Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:16:44 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=1470#comment-7036 That's right, I don't. I just will them into existence through sheer willpower and strength. Been running a bit low on both lately, though, which is why. That’s right, I don’t. I just will them into existence through sheer willpower and strength. Been running a bit low on both lately, though, which is why.

]]> By: otou-san http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2009/06/29/better-30-years-late-than-never/comment-page-1/#comment-7011 otou-san Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:17:18 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=1470#comment-7011 <strong>@ghostlightning </strong>thanks for pushing me toward it! <strong>@Koji Oe</strong> Thanks. After reading Kaioshin's comment below you, that "fat" sounds like it's worth a miss. <strong>@IKnight</strong> "Visceral" is a great word for my feelings on the sounds, and on Gundam's treatment of battle scenes in general. I suppose it's probably common practice to improve the sounds, just like the animation, in movie versions, but I've never quite noticed the sounds like this. <strong>@schneider</strong> don't worry, he's already recommended I do that as well :D thanks! <strong>@Kaioshin Sama</strong> Sounds kinda hilarious, someday I'm sure I'll sit down and check it out. But I'm glad that I seem to have done the right thing here. <strong>@Owen S</strong> Thanks, I appreciate that. But isn't this what you mean: <blockquote>This is the type of post I secretly want to write when I get around to the Gundams, but I don't actually write blog posts.</blockquote> @ghostlightning
thanks for pushing me toward it!

@Koji Oe
Thanks. After reading Kaioshin’s comment below you, that “fat” sounds like it’s worth a miss.

@IKnight
“Visceral” is a great word for my feelings on the sounds, and on Gundam’s treatment of battle scenes in general. I suppose it’s probably common practice to improve the sounds, just like the animation, in movie versions, but I’ve never quite noticed the sounds like this.

@schneider
don’t worry, he’s already recommended I do that as well :D thanks!

@Kaioshin Sama
Sounds kinda hilarious, someday I’m sure I’ll sit down and check it out. But I’m glad that I seem to have done the right thing here.

@Owen S
Thanks, I appreciate that. But isn’t this what you mean:

This is the type of post I secretly want to write when I get around to the Gundams, but I don’t actually write blog posts.

]]> By: Owen S http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2009/06/29/better-30-years-late-than-never/comment-page-1/#comment-7009 Owen S Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:34:58 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=1470#comment-7009 This is the type of post I secretly want to write when I get around to the Gundams. This is the type of post I secretly want to write when I get around to the Gundams.

]]> By: Kaioshin Sama http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2009/06/29/better-30-years-late-than-never/comment-page-1/#comment-6992 Kaioshin Sama Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:40:33 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=1470#comment-6992 The movies only get better from here too. I have to say that it's definitely good that you went with the movies because the original TV show cut is too much like the old school enemy robot of the week formula (see every toei robot series ever made) and it's very easy to say that many of these episodes feature content that is just not up to par with the events that are featured in the movie. One in particular with Zeon soldiers on bikes trying to fly around and stick bombs onto the Gundam comes to mind, but also the rather lame Gogg episode that has the Gundam going through a ridiculous number of transformations to beat the stupid thing that clearly give the feeling of filler. And then there's the Zackerello..... Luckily most Gundam series (sans G Gundam which is it's own thing) would take from the movies examples and rarely waste time with silly robot skirmishes of the week that would have little bearing on the story. If there was combat usually it was with named characters we'd come to know and at the end of it something was accomplished. The movies only get better from here too. I have to say that it’s definitely good that you went with the movies because the original TV show cut is too much like the old school enemy robot of the week formula (see every toei robot series ever made) and it’s very easy to say that many of these episodes feature content that is just not up to par with the events that are featured in the movie. One in particular with Zeon soldiers on bikes trying to fly around and stick bombs onto the Gundam comes to mind, but also the rather lame Gogg episode that has the Gundam going through a ridiculous number of transformations to beat the stupid thing that clearly give the feeling of filler. And then there’s the Zackerello…..

Luckily most Gundam series (sans G Gundam which is it’s own thing) would take from the movies examples and rarely waste time with silly robot skirmishes of the week that would have little bearing on the story. If there was combat usually it was with named characters we’d come to know and at the end of it something was accomplished.

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