That made me laugh so hard

I have to say I’m not a fan of moe upon moe upon moe. I can handle Mikuru because she’s such a piss take.

But I’ll never get back the hours I spent watching the abomination that is Maburaho. My main reason for staying away from anything that looks like it might be moeish.

I kept watching in the hopes that it would get better, alas no, by the end I still felt my time would have been better spent stabbing myself in the head with an ice pick.

But that’s my preference, I do like a little bit of light romance/comedy. But for the most part I tend to like dark mysteries or big bad robots, so I guess its just that moe isn’t my thing.

I guess it will really be a problem with the moe lovers themselves are saying, “too MOE!”

I guess what I felt when I read the Haruhi novel was that whatever happened in the book was exactly how I imagine the anime to be? Like, they just transposed somebody’s imagination onto the screen and call it a day. It’s a major feat, sure, but I’m not sure what they’re adding to the adaptation process that’s what you would describe.

@hashi
I’m not sure why you would get upset for valid criticism. Is it because they “got you?” There’s nothing that says you have to find an anime particularly valid in any way in order to like it. Despite what I’m saying here, it’s all just animated entertainment and you can watch what you like even if it’s for the “wrong” reasons.

@ghostlightning
sounds like the 12 days of xmas nyoron~

@The Sojourner
you will never know.

@kritik
story-pandering? sounds dangerous. pretty soon we’ll have character-pandering, animation-pandering, and fans-of-good-stuff-baiting!

@Kaioshin
I have seen plenty of criticism both founded and unfair leveled at it. To read your opinions is to come away with the impression that Gundam 00 and Geass are the only maligned series in recent anime history. In fact, I found the reaction to Geass to be overall pretty positive, except for the (in my mind, accurate) assessment that R2 was inferior to the first (bar what I thought was a successful ending). Perhaps you’re seeing what you want to see? Perhaps I am too.

@Omisyth
That’s the point, though. [insert show]-tards exist for everything, even if they’re less vocal. Narutards, Haruhitards, K-ONtards, Fist-of-the-North-tards, /m/en, they’re all there. No, we can’t live in a vacuum, but we should be at least giving a fighting chance to shows on their own merits, not those of their fans. Even the popular ones with vocal fans.

@jpmeyer
I suppose that’s another way to say it. If you’re gonna hate, your opinion is perfectly valid, just stop being an idiot. Something like that.

@YotaruVegeta
I would like to think that we’re a little more civilized than pundits on a 24-hour news network. Discussion’s more healthy than backbiting.

@omo
I will accept your backhanded compliment at face value, but I fail to see how “extending it beyond the pages” isn’t adding some value creatively. Are you saying that parody elements were already in place enough that what the series did wasn’t necessary? I guess I didn’t get that. But considering the sources it lampooned were animated to begin with, maybe it just becomes more obvious. I dunno. I just got a different vibe from the two.

As for Nadesico, it’s just unfair to ask anything to stand up next to it. I’m only trying to provide a reference, not a qualitative comparison of Haruhi (clever) vs. Nadesico (brilliant).

But on the point of parody, the book itself is parody enough; what the anime did well was to take that idea and extend it beyond the pages. It doesn’t really add creatively in a substantive way but in how it was executed.

And Nadesico is still way, way better at the whole self-reference parody thing by a mile. Too bad the higher reaches of it is not nearly as accessible.

If people don’t get/like Haruhi, fuck ‘em. They either have to either see what other’s like about the show on their own, or move along. Like what you like, and get off of Haruhi’s case!

What exactly is it you are reacting to anyway? Where is this big hate on for Haruhi like that for Code Geass, because all I am seeing is praise praise praise. Don’t really get the inspiration for this article, but I do appreciate how you have levelled the argument to both sides of the fanboy/hater dichotomy…..even if the latter is invisible to me.

I do also appreciate the counterpoint on the whole overeaction to moe as a “cancer that is killing anime”. Moe is what it is, and it’s not a universal application to modern anime, it’s just very popular.